Also try https://techcrachi.com/sling-tv-free-trial/. Dan and Jeremy could ask for recommendations, pick the top 40, and do a 10 article series. On a related note; all of the reviews Ive watched/read on the Shield Plus (outside of this one) measured the trigger between 4.5 and 5.5 lbs. Its too unreliable for a CCW. This is not an issue with the Hellcat magazines. Yes, its better than the aftermarket trigger in the Hellcat. The downside is, well, predictably the fact that accessories are few and far between. SIGs X-RAY3 sights are fantastic; exactly what I prefer. The Hellcat is also a subcompact 9mm pistol, but it is slightly larger than the P938. My LGS made the remark that since the 365 hit the market the 938 was marked down by SIG to counteract its sales going soft. It weighs just under a pound, making it a very lightweight and easy to carry option. Depending on what Im wearing I carry a S&W shield or a RMRd CZ P-07. Crummy white dot(I was chastised on the S&W FB group)for saying that. I may earn a small part of the sale from links to any products or services on this site. Glock 19 Gen 5 Vs Taurus G3Seriously Closer Than You May Think! This model uses a 3-inch barrel topped with a compensator and is optic-ready. I LOVE the Shield though. For pocket carry, my choice would be a Springfield 911 9mm or Sig P938. We already have an account registered for email address This gives it the highest flush-fit capacity of all four of these little gats, despite the fact that its the shortest of the quadfecta. The Glock 26 is bigger in every dimension and still only holds 10 rounds in its flush-fitting magazine. On the other hand, the frontstrap is where the shooters fingers do most of their gripping, and the lower toe of the P365 allows my mens size large hands to place precisely half a pinky firmly on the frontstrap. The Glock 17 idea was pretty much stolen from the Heckler and Koch VP70. Both guns are great for concealed carry, but which is the better option? The Hellcat is slightly more efficient when it comes to ammunition capacity. Pro Mags Work In These Guns. Been seriouly considering buying the 365 simply because I do not have it. For me, the flat trigger is preferred over the curved trigger. though a terrible value proposition next to any of these. To get night sights on the Shield, which makes it comparable in features to the Sig, its $44 more than the SIG. All rights reserved. P938 VS P239 Size comparison. I have a hellcat, its awesome I find that the slide gets better over time, run a few hundred rounds in it and clean it everytime I use it during the break in period and it runs very well, however I still find I can aim MUCH better with a Sig P320, Glock19, etc. . As many of yall know, Im Jewish. The Sig P938 is a subcompact 9mm pistol that is just 6.6 inches long and 3.9 inches tall. My recent Custom II 45 purchase turned out great..lucky I guess. Sigs texture isnt bad, and the gun stays put. On the plus side, this small amount of additional size packs a large amount of prowess on the range. I wanted all of the guns to show their same side (e.g. If I were just picking both up now, it would be hard to pick. The standard Hellcat trigger just isn't as smooth or Ive owned my SIG P365 since mid 2018, so Im coming up on 3 years. I would go with a Glock, Sig, or Walther single stack striker fired. I just need more time at the range with it. The community shows this every day and rejects hateful messaging HARD. Additionally, this bad boy has the best trigger of the bunch. Shoehorning 10+ rounds into a skinny micro-compact was and certainly still is a fantastic recipe for sales success, and, as this very article shows, others have jumped into the fray. The 938 is also a serialized frame the 365 is a serialized trigger module. So I agree, the P11 isnt even close to the 4 you picked to review. Wrong size category. I specifically mentioned the Daily Beast for a reason. 21 - 37 of 37 Posts . I love the extened grip and 9 rounds is just perfect for my EDC. The Shield Plus is markedly flatter and softer shooting than the other three pistols in this roundup, and the larger grip circumference and curvier shape provide tons of confidence and control. In fact, perhaps its too good? If this were my carry gun Id put sandpaper style grip tape in-between, below, and behind the serrations (probably cutting my own from Talon Grips granulate material). Wouldnt expect a blog to create a compendium of every handgun commercially available for purchase, so some will naturally not receive attention. Not too many play with the 938 safety, and fewer still would delete it SIG sells the 365 proven safe without it and you can add one as you please. That said, the Hellcat is a solid pistol too. A friend, my main range buddy, owns the Hellcat, so Ive handled and fired it, and I have to agree, that trigger needs a serious upgrade. There are a lot of factors to consider when choosing a concealed carry handgun. The GLOCK is closer, but its over a half inch bigger than the norm here in length and height (in practice its an inch taller than the P365, or like 25% taller) and its at least 10% wider than the average. Between the 938 and the Micro 9 I'd go with the 938. The introductory photo points counter-clockwise and is level. Every single one of these pistols is reliable, accurate, and easy to conceal. If youre looking for a small semi-automatic pistol, the P938 is a good option to consider. Great guns. The widest part of the palm swell measures 1.06 inches in my calipers (and it does measure out at S&Ws stated 1.1 inches from the slide stop to the other side of the slide). The rear sight is a black sight with a white U, and its very Hackathorn style. Overall this is a very good trigger, and doubly so for anyone who prefers a rolling style break. As mentioned, the sig p938 barrel length is 3.1-inches, which is slightly short than the 3.41-inches of the Glock 43X. Frankly, if I made a pistol like this (and didnt care about lefties) Id design the left side of the grip to be extra comfortable and the back, front, and right side to be extra grippy. There are dynamic reasons why chopping 1911s creates problems, and now we see it happening when we chop 9mms. The SIG is overpriced for what it is and no Springfields for me, Thanks. While S&W officially states the Shield Plus width, exclusive of the controls, as 0.94 inches I must disagree. Action: The Springfield 911 has a striker-fired action, while the Sig P938 has a single-action only trigger. Heres a look at some of the key differences between the Springfield 911 and the Sig P938: The Hellcat is a very small gun, making it a good choice for concealed carry. If you are looking for a concealed carry weapon, the SIG P365 is a great option. Dry fired the other models and felt they were all a little small for my hand size. Springfield 911 9mm vs Sig P938 MarksmanTV 120K subscribers Subscribe 789 Save 43K views 3 years ago Notice Age-restricted video (based on Community Guidelines) Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us. They vary slightly in shape but arent much different. I've run a few mags through a rental hellcat it shot better then I expected, not a lot of snap. Dont buy any of them. I dont accept the practice of woke upper class white folk attempting to tell people from various minority groups what should or shouldnt insult or scare them. Well its technically its not even that, its just close enough that people not in the know could mistake it. Some at the end like the 365 would actually Hurt my hand and I could really feel it. Obviously, the Hellcat has caught my eye. My buddy bought a Hellcat when they became available and Ive shot that quite a bit. I expect that will change once the new wears off. Agree 100% Available in FDE or Black. In all fairness, I haven't shot one, but the gun just feels topheavy to me. Dont give him another gun also. A tracker in .44, TCP, and a G2. Firearms are by and large back in stock (well up here at least) but good luck finding ammo that is not mid to higher end premium self defense. All in all I think I would rather have the Walther PPQ sub compact or even the M&P sub compact. Each gun has several models on the market, and when youre choosing one or the other, it might make sense to know all the versions available to you. I own about 15 now, but you can never have enough. Sig installed a very small proprietary rail. For instance, my early P365 here has a slightly better trigger than my P365XL, which was made two years later. Okay, onto our thoughts of how each micro-compact concealed carry handgun stacks up compared to the others: SIGs little P365 shook up the concealed carry market when it was released in early 2018. Im definitely not a fan of the rounded-notch rear with white outline, though obviously this is personal preference. This week the same retailer had the Shield Plus for $356 so now I own both. The P938 also has a manual safety, which some shooters prefer. On man-sized targets, there isnt any real difference, but on small dots, its evident. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Oh boy, is this just as simple as the Sig Sauer P365 vs. the Hellcat? Sigs first competitor came from a company called Springfield Armory by way of Croatia. My P11 is piss poor when it comes to accuracy, and very picky with ammunition. Hellcat all the way. Down to 4lbs of a crisp break. Kimber has gotten squirrelly apparently with quality control. I also have a P320 compact and do not discern that much of a difference, especially with a more than double price tag compared to the G2. what we like doesn't matter. Im a big fan of the texture, size, and shape of this grip frame and I found that the rounded/tapered backstrap gave me a really clear index point or frame of reference for where the muzzle was pointing. Holy heck is it short and crisp with an insanely short, crisp reset as well. In a sea of slim, easy-to-conceal pistols with 6+1 and 7+1 capacities, the P365s 10+1 capacity within the same tiny footprint was a full-on mic drop that gave it an immediate, huge leg up on the competition. It is powerful enough to stop an attacker, but not so powerful that it is likely to over-penetrate and injure innocent bystanders. Like oddball ammo loads, as things return to a newer normal a lot of small lot manufacturing will hit the wayside while makers attempt to completely supply the bigger sellers. Dispite my safe full of pistols, many of which are CC pistols, I carry almost exclusively either a 40 or 45 performance center shield for the simple reason I can shoot well with them both and from the morning until it is time to take the weapon off I never ever feel it is out of place or not comfortable. Getting sight focus with either isnt tough to do and getting lead on target quickly isnt tough to do either. Ive run it hot and dry without issue over several hundred rounds during a defensive pistol class. !function(r,u,m,b,l,e){r._Rumble=b,r[b]||(r[b]=function(){(r[b]._=r[b]._||[]).push(arguments);if(r[b]._.length==1){l=u.createElement(m),e=u.getElementsByTagName(m)[0],l.async=1,l.src="https://rumble.com/embedJS/ubkhph"+(arguments[1].video?'. PS Many of us rated the 365 the bottom of the list. Its worth mentioning that the Hellcat remains slightly shorter but also packs one extra round in its 11-round magazine. Waiting to see how the Ruger feels in the hand, generally pleased with most things Ruger and this is a well-rounded gat for the price. For me? While the grip texture on the Hellcat is similar to that of the P365, the grip shape is not its quite blocky. While all four pistols do offer a manual thumb safety as an option, the MAX-9 was the only gun in our test that was so equipped so we cant compare this feature. Well, we are keeping it basic. If these were normal times the price difference alone makes them far better guns for the price. Point of Aim and Point of impact are pretty far apart, as it shoots way low regardless of distance. P365: Standard micro-compact model with a 3-inch barrel, 10-round flush fit magazine. The large magazine release is easy to use, but not so tall that it risks accidental activation. Survival AR-7 Rifle, https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/my-grandfathers-1943-union-switch-signal-m1911a1/, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/sig-sauer-p365-15000-rounds-later/, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-sig-sauer-p365-micro-compact-9mm-pistol/, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-ttag-tests-show-p320-striker-fired-pistols-are-not-drop-safe/, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXldafIl5DQ, https://www.gunpartscorp.com/blog/a-quick-history-of-taurus-revolvers, https://techlazza.com/antivirus-apps-for-ios, https://techcrachi.com/sling-tv-free-trial/. It seems to be the closest match capability and design-wise. Two whole ounces more? Learn the 3 most popular shooting stances & more. A four way review of highly similar guns is interesting. It handles all ammo well, both cheap and expensive. The Max-9 and Shield Plus both felt too thin, like they werent filling enough of our palms, and the longer front strap on the Hellcat was very welcome. It weighs just 11.5 ounces, while the Sig P938 weighs 16 ounces. Yes, because if theres one thing TTAG is known for, its our support of murderous fascist regimes. I got it to what I consider the perfect carry gun for me in the Florida heat. If one of these companies started making a 22lr conversion, then the cost of use changes completely. He currently teaches concealed carry courses and enjoys spending time in Floridas Nature Coast. The Springfield Hellcat is a subcompact 9mm pistol that is designed for concealment. The Kimber Micro 9 is a great gun but the trigger on it from the factory is atrocious. Really not that hard. They look good, but theyre so dang shallow theyre barely functional. Since this article came out the Shield Plus can be purchased optics ready and the OR version comes factory with night sights. Nazi swastikas point clockwise, and are tilted. Ive not had the opportunity to fire the Ruger or S&W yet. For me, the P365 shoots straighter even at 25 yards, I can consistently land fast and consistent shots onto a gong. Per the Max 9 review, do I need a rail tie to disassemble any of these or just the Ruger? The smaller the gun, the easier it is to conceal. The SIG is 1 inch thick, and the Hellcat's grip is 1 inch wide at the grip. Its a great gun and it was extremely reliable and accurate and easy to carry. Hellcat: Standard model with a 3-inch barrel and 11-round flush-fitting magazine. I need to pick up another m&p at some point, the new models really have a nice trip texture on them. Shield Plus: $553 (pistol) + $420 (mags) = $973. mag (have 3 of them) thus a longer grip. I find the Max9 to be a vastly superior shooter over the 365 in terms of recoil management, and the optics ready slide is a big plus. Sig Sauer P365 vs. Springfield Armory Hellcat: Which Is Better For Concealed Carry? If you ride the reset its a little shorter than the initial pull, but I did find the reset to be a bit on the light side in terms of its sound and feel. All of the P938s feature aluminum alloy frames and stainless steel slides, so they are extremely durable. This can make a big difference if youre carrying the gun all day. The Walther is way ahead. So shes happy and thats really the point. Yeah. He lives outside of Austin, TX. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Jump to Latest Follow SigTalk is a forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer enthusiasts. Compare them all you want; I have no need for a micro-compact. The Sig P938 is a smaller pistol that is easy to conceal, while the Hellcat is a larger pistol that has a higher capacity magazine. Never forget that Gatson Glock is a old plastic expert that made fine curtain rods. I also shoot it a little faster and more accurately. I've heard a LOT about the Sig P365, but I'm just not that impressed. Following all safety best practices related to holster choice, holstering, and use it obviously wont present any sort of issue, but its undoubtedly a deviation from the norm for a self-defense gun without a manual safety (though a thumb safety is an option). That said, the manual safety on the Ruger MAX-9 is just right. I ran a couple of these guns side by side shooting the Nano and nothing compared after 200 rds. No tools needed, just dont lose it. Just the Ruger. The only gun we did not test was the Max9. I have looked at and briefly fired the Hellcat but I think the SIG is a much better quality weapon. The Hellcat is a fantastic pistol and it more than holds its own when compared head-to-head with the P365. There is a reason it is not sold anymore, it is outdated. Gotta do a size cutoff at some point, and both of those guns are big enough that I dont think they belong here. The Shields slide serrations are fine. Without a question I shoot the Shield Plus a little bit better again, it shoots like a compact but itsjust enough larger and heavier and Ive become so familiar and used to my P365 that its still my choice. The backstrap, as sharply rounded as it is, isnt as comfortable as the backstrap of the P365 as it focuses its force in a more distinct vertical line across my palm, but I love how functional it is. How many micro compacts are there these days? When my son said that he wanted it, I told him he could have it if he still wanted it after he test fired it first. What it doesnt have, though, is the best slide serrations even if they might look the niftiest. Agreed . More of these type reviews and reports !! Sig P365 vs Hellcat | Which Is The Best Micro 9mm Carry Gun For You? I also prefer the adaptive grip texture on the Hellcat. Like that one also but bought it mainly to give to my firefighter daughter so she had something to stop a different kind of fire. You wont beat the price. Ps I see a lot of cheap Luminox watches for sale, and the one thing most sellers do not include is a pic of the lume in the dark. The simple truth is the Hellcat fit my wifes hands beautifully. While the front is undeniably easy and fast to pick up, it just doesnt snag my eye as well as the front sight on the P365 and Hellcat. Even with the 15 rd. Oct 14, 2022. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Obviously if this is your practice then its a cost you should factor in. When the trigger does break its clean and crisp. P365X: Standard length slide with the longer XL grip and optics ready capability. gear. I do not like the feel of the Hellcat in my hand. The Sig P365 is a great option for those looking for a Hellcat alternative. In fact, if my P365 broke tomorrow, Id have no reservations about carrying the Hellcat, though. Another important factor to consider is the guns caliber. Excellent. Springfield equipped their gun with a single slot Picatinny rail. But theyre also very grippy with 90-degree edges and enough depth to provide really solid purchase. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. The most popular models are the 9mm and .45 ACP versions, but you can also find .380 ACP and .22 LR versions. As pointed out in other comments below, if you compare it to the hateful symbol the arms of this pistol arrangement point the wrong direction, it isnt canted 45 degrees, etc etc. Chances anyone trying to weave that story isnt actually among the group who was most affected by that symbol as I am. If youre looking for a smaller gun thats easy to shoot, the P938 is the better option. I have the Max 9, and have had 365s in the past. Then Sig released the P365X! I will likely get into a shield plus at some point as I have always been very pleased with the shield. Inspired from the tv series Yellowstone, this Kelly Reilly Blue Coat is poncho-style outerwear. Its also a reliable and accurate gun, making it a good choice for self-defense or target shooting. This is a comparison and when you compare back-to-back the difference is meaningful. Many of the industrys biggest celebrities/influencers/advocates are open members of at least one of the MIPOC/LGBT groups I just mentioned, and theyre every single bit as popular as any straight white male can be because the community embraces them. I guess I was thinking about this in terms of it being like a heads-up match. While I dont pocket carry, I have several sub-compact pistols carry pistols and my P365 is not my favorite. I have a hellcat micro love it easy to pocket carry even in the summer I also carry the 642 smith both are great conceal and very reliable guns. Springfield Hellcat Micro Compact For Sale Springfield Armory Hellcat 3In Micro-Compact 9Mm Pistol (Hc9319B) gritrsports.com 449.00 View Deal Springfield Hellcat Micro-Compact 9Mm 3 Barrel 13-Rounds Night. The Sig P938 and the Hellcat are both great 9mm pistols, but which one is right for you? For an MSRP premium of just $30, youd be silly not to buy the optics-ready Hellcat. Basically Im not a Sig fanboy and havent even touched the Ruger. Its remarkable, really, to pack so much into such small pistols. Contact | Definitely the best bag for the buck, and has great features that the others do not have such as double strike capability. The Sig and Rugers are great. Loved the grip and trigger and watched dozens of reviews leading me to believe it would be the most accurate firearm suitable for conceal (or just plinkin targets or holes in paper). True but you have to switch out the baseplate unless you want to leave a gap when using the 15 round magazine configured for the Xl when using the shorter 365. They are best described as a single stack-sized gun with the capacity of a double stack. It wasnt as easy to carry as the Taurus 85 that I sold to buy it, and it was painful to shoot compared to every other carry gun Ive ever owned.
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